Order Lobster, Make 'Em Pay

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There was a time when being a member of the ACLU meant defending the speech of people you despised—not because you endorsed them, but because the principle of liberty mattered more than comfort. I joined for that reason. I wasn’t virtue signaling. I was pledging allegiance to the Constitution, the real one—not the cosplay version people wave when it suits them.

Now? The ACLU defends speech selectively. The Human Rights Campaign operates more like a branding arm of one political party. And free speech? Somehow that’s been redefined as violence. Ironically, actual violence is often written off as passion or protest.

I’m not saying this in a red hat. I’m saying this as someone who remembers when progressives stood for open discourse. I grew up in Hawai‘i surrounded by every possible kind of person—different skin, different languages, different politics. They were still mine. I worked with Frank Burns, the general who wrote “Be All You Can Be.” I was close to his son, Scott. I loved Hope O’Keeffe, a brilliant constitutional lawyer. These people weren’t footnotes. They shaped my beliefs.

Someone once said I was trying to get myself on the SPLC watchlist. It hurt because it felt a little true. I’ve been next to too many counternarratives for too long—from New Media Strategies to memes.org to spelunking rabbit holes on forums nobody talks about in polite company. I don’t think I’m flagged. But I’m filtered—soft-shadowbanned, algorithmically sidelined, quietly removed from the conversation without anyone needing to tell me so.

And the language—God, the language. I watched “racist” morph from describing segregationists to being tossed like a beer can at people like me: 55, white, straight, Christian, gun-owning, ex-ACLU donor. “Fascist” now applies to suburban parents who speak up at school board meetings. These words used to be magic spells. Now they’re wallpaper.

And when every act is fascism, when every opinion is white supremacy, the terms lose meaning. The public square becomes a theater of accusation. And many of us? We quietly walked away. The left won the culture war, sure. The right didn’t argue. They built something else.

While the activist class raged on TikTok and MSNBC, the right unplugged. They stopped donating. They stopped attending. They didn’t march. They starved the beast. Defund NPR? You don’t need a vote—just stop the grants that trickle in through CPB, NEA, USAID, and other soft-funding channels. NPR says it only receives 2% of its budget from the federal government. But insiders know better—those streams run deep.

Same for universities. You can’t shut them down outright—it would look authoritarian. But redefine their worst excesses (and many now qualify) as violations of civil rights law—like antisemitism—and you can cut off Title VI funding. You don’t need bayonets. You need bean counters.

The left made everything sacred: identity, language, tone, even silence. The right made nothing sacred except autonomy. The right didn’t want to control cities. They wanted to starve them—cut off food, fuel, infrastructure—and watch the bloated coastlines retreat. The right doesn’t dream of invading blue cities. They plan to outlast them.

And still, the same spells are being cast: bigot, fascist, hater, Hitler. But the spell is broken. Because I see the restaurant going dark. I see the check left unpaid. I see the waiter backing away. And I see the activists arguing about the pronouns on the dessert menu.

I’m not here to storm anything. I’m not calling for a new party, a movement, or revolt. I’m just the watcher. I was here when speech was sacred. I was here when dissent wasn’t pathology. And I’ll still be here when the lights go out and the last credit card gets declined.

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Welcome to another deep dive. Our goal, as always, is to cut through all the noise, really distill complex ideas and help you get up to speed quickly but also thoroughly. Exactly. Today we're jumping into something pretty fascinating, maybe a bit stark, actually. An exploration of, well, the shifting cultural and political ground beneath our feet, you could say.

And we're doing it through the eyes of someone who calls himself a watcher. OK, let's unpack this. Yeah, what makes this dive really compelling, I think, is the source material. We've got two articles by Chris Abraham, Order Lobster and The Watcher. They're pretty interconnected, and they offer this really distinct, maybe provocative viewpoint is someone who sees or perceives the Republic itself as, well, collapsing.

Wow. OK, so our mission today is really to dig into that, extract the core ideas, understand the shifts in language and power he's talking about, and explore his pretty controversial thesis about a quiet civil war. And just before we really dive in, it's super important we say this upfront, right? Our goal here is not to endorse any of this. None at all.

We're here to understand Abraham's arguments, look at his metaphors, his observations, with total impartiality. Just reporting what's in the text exactly. We want to give you, the listener, maybe that a hot moment, you know, a different way to think about the stuff swirling around in current discourse. It's definitely politically charged content, no doubt. So we're just laying out the ideas from the source, trying to give you the author's perspective from different angles so you can make up your own mind.

We're here to distill thoroughly. OK, so let's start with Abraham. Score stance. How he sees himself in all this. He's pretty clear from the gecko, isn't he? Yeah, he really is.

He says. And I'm quoting. I'm not calling for revolt or secession or even policy. I'm just watching. Just watch.

It immediately sets him up as this observer, maybe a detached 1 standing on the edge of what he calls a Republic that doesn't know it's collapsing. He's not trying to push it. Over No. He's documenting the perceived fall, and what makes his story quite poignant, I think, is his personal history with institutions he feels have just completely changed. Right, the ACLU connection.

Exactly. He talks about being a member of the ACLU for a long time and it for him back then it meant defending free speech, period. Even for people he found, you know, repulsive. Like his examples, Nazi, a pornographer, a dissenter. Yeah, he says, the principle of speech mattered more than your personal revulsion.

He joined, he insists, not for virtue signaling or identity building. Right, not performative. But as a pledge to the Constitution, not the performative one, but the dusty one in the glass case, it paints this picture of someone really rooted in a traditional, almost literal reading of those founding principles. And that's such a crucial setup because what he's describing is what he sees as a massive institutional redefinition. He claims these organizations, like the ACLU, which he saw as universalist, have basically ditched their core principles for partisan goals. He says the ACLU now defends rights selectively. Implying they pick and choose based on politics. That seems to be his interpretation, yeah. And similarly, he says, the Human Rights Campaign now operates like APR arm of a political faction. So if we connect this to the bigger picture he's painting, it's not just about policy changes. It's deeper.

It's a fundamental shift in meaning, a redefinition of core terms. Like the examples he gives? Exactly. Free speech is violence. Silence is violence, but apparently actual violence is just passion. He sees this inversion everywhere. Wow.

He's arguing the very concepts we used to debate with freedom, harm, expression. They've been twisted, redefined, maybe to the point where they've lost their punch, their clarity. So it creates this weird linguistic fog. Precisely where something clearly wrong can be reframed as OK and a right can be called harmful. This breakdown of language is absolutely central to his whole feeling of collapse. And what I think makes his Watcher persona feel well earned, his narrative at least, is how carefully he builds his own credibility for it.

Yeah, he. Lays out his background. Right. He really stresses he's not some kind of red hatted reactionary. He wants you to know.

He remembers a time when even progressives believed in the Bill of Rights. He talks about growing up in Hawaii, you know, surrounded by all sorts of different people culturally, politically. But he felt they were still mine, that sense of shared identity. That's a powerful phrase. It is, and he mentions friends in the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, his closeness to Colonel Frank Burns.

The Be All You Can Be guy talks with Hope O'Keefe, this constitutional lawyer he admired, who he now sees steering institutions he doesn't recognize, not just politics. For him, it feels personal, like disillusionment. It definitely as wait. He's framing it as observing from the inside out, or at least from someone who used to feel inside. Exactly.

Not just an outsider lobbing critiques. Which then leads to this feeling he describes of being sidelined. Not attacked directly, maybe, but quarantined. Yeah. Algorithmically sidelined.

Soft shadow band Bozo filtered over his terms. Let's quickly unpack those algorithmically sidelined platform algorithms. Just kind of lower your visibility, right? Soft shadow bands, you're not blocked, but nobody really sees your stuff. And bozo filtered. That's an old Internet term.

Basically means the system just ignores you your irrelevant noise. He even tells that story about trying to get on the SPLC watch list. Yeah, the Southern Property Law Center, he said. The thought that he might be on it, even if he was half joking, stung because he felt yeah, I was probably were true in their eyes. And he links this back to his history, right? His early Internet days.

Right spelunking down Internet rabbit holes that the polite world doesn't like to admit exist. That's quite a phrase. It is from his time at places like New Media Strategies, founding meme space. He knows Internet culture. He's suggesting this is an old school censorship. It's quite quieter.

Digital exclusion. Like a passive intellectual exile. Kind of your ideas just don't make it into the acceptable chat. And this feeling of being pushed aside connects directly to, I think, one of his most powerful points, the collapse of meaning in words. Yes, the language itself breaking down. He watches terms like racist, which used to mean, you know, burning crosses, get applied to, well, him. And he gives that very specific self description. Yeah.

A 55 year old, 6 foot three, 340 LB Jesus believing gun owner with a lifetime NRA membership and an ACLU card in my drawer. He uses that to highlight the perceived absurdity. Right, and fascist being used for parents at school board meetings. He says the spell is broken. These words have lost their power.

Which leads to that crucial observation. These labels used to be nuclear. Now they're bumper stickers. When everything is fascism, nothing is. When everyone is a bigot, no one listens.

That really sums it up, doesn't it? Rhetorical inflation making real critique impossible. And he finishes that thought with the public square is broken. The conversation is poisoned. I haven't changed, but the rules have feels incredibly personal for. Him.

It does. And it's striking, isn't it, how much he focuses on the power of language and what happens when that power gets diluted. Because when racist or fascist gets thrown around casually, the words lose their edge. Genuine, serious accusations then struggle to land. People become numb to it. Exactly desensitized.

So the poison public square he talks about, it's a place where the shared vocabulary for debate has just eroded. It's replaced by this inflated language that kind of ironically makes everything less impactful. It's like the tools of communication are breaking. That's a great way to put it. If you can't even agree on what words mean, how do you even start to resolve anything? It's a breakdown of the process itself. OK, so we've got this picture of Abraham as the Watcher, seeing language and institutions decay.

Now let's pivot to why he thinks this is happening. His idea of a cultural revolution, which is really summed up by that central metaphor. Ah yes, the order lobster metaphor. It's quite something. It really is.

He lays it out like this. The activist left was invited to the table. We said order anything you want. The polite response would have been to choose modestly, but they ordered everything on the menu. 3 lobsters, 4 steaks, 12 meals to go and when the check came they demanded someone else pay. Wow, that's.

Direct it is. It's obviously provocative, but it's his analogy for what he sees as a huge overreach by a certain cultural political group. Not just disagreement, but entitlement, taking everything without considering the cost or the initial offer. Yeah, it frames it as this really unbalanced deal. Yeah. And it sets up his argument about perceived cultural dominance.

That metaphor really captures his view of what he calls a hard revolution. And if we connect this to the broader picture, it's not just about politics in the usual sense. It's about. Culture. Yeah, it's about achieving cultural dominance. Yeah.

He describes this revolution as loud, moral, institutional, uncompromising. Not subtle then. Not at all, he says. It arrived through the front door in broad daylight. It came armed with slogans and tenured allies, DEI statements and HR policy changes, intersectional theory and protest theatre.

OK. Let's pause on some of that DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, those policies and companies, universities. Right, intersectional theory, the idea that different identity like race, gender, class overlap to create unique forms of discrimination or privilege, often leading to calls for specific actions and protest theater, those big public, maybe dramatic protests designed to grab attention, which he seems to view as somewhat performative. So he's painting this picture of a very visible, very organized push to change society from within existing structures. Exactly, using the tools of institutions, academia, HR and doing it with a strong sense of moral certainty and no room for compromise in his view.

And he gets specific about the demands, doesn't he? He does. He says this revolution demanded dismantling reeducation reparations not just for systems but for language itself. So changing not just structures, but how we think and talk. Reshaping reality through language. That seems to be his interpretation of the goal, yes, a really fundamental ambition, and he talks about the confidence behind it.

Right, He says it pushed with confidence because it had won the culture war. He saw the signals. We run the campuses, we run the platforms, we run the stories. And because power flowed that way. It didn't need to ask, it told that sense of achieved dominance, meaning negotiation is over.

Just think about that for a second, you know, for you listening, imagine how that dynamic one side feeling, it runs the show and sets the terms might feel to someone who thinks their own values are being pushed aside. Yeah, it definitely frames it as a very one sided assertion of power. OK, now this is where Abraham's story takes a really interesting, maybe unexpected twist. After describing this hard revolution, he talks about the response from the right and he argues it was totally different from what the activists left expected. Right, he emphasizes the lack of a symmetrical fight. Exactly, he says.

Meanwhile, the right didn't scream. They didn't March on cities. They just unplugged, defunded, withdrew. Quite a retreat. He gives examples. They didn't try to storm the capital. He seems to see Jan 6 as maybe an exception, not the rule here. Interesting point.

Instead he focuses on things like they stop sending their kids to your schools, they started homeschooling, building co-ops, decentralizing. It's not a picture of fighting back directly. No, it's disengagement, a strategic withdrawal. It's almost like pulling back from the mainstream. And what's really fascinating is how he frames this as strategic, like a kind of judo move almost.

He insists there was no counter revolution, no mobilization of equal energy or symmetrical confrontation. He focuses on that group he calls the Christian populist nationalist segment, which he knows gets lumped into mega, but says it has a deeper, quieter, more local spirit. And his observation is key. This group didn't fight the way the left expected. They took the hits, absorbed the blows, got called names. Racist, fascist, bigoted Hick.

He says they lost friends, jobs. Right. We're told their values were old fashioned, their faith dangerous. And still, he claims they didn't fight back in that expected confrontational way. They didn't regress. They.

Remembered. They remembered, yeah. What does he mean by that, do you think? I think he means they drew on a deep cultural memory on long standing traditions rather than just reacting politically. It suggests resilience, continuity, playing a long game.

So cultural preservation through pulling back, not fighting head on. That seems to be his core argument. It's disarming because it's not the expected counter attack. Which brings us to that really crucial distinction he makes maintenance versus resistance. Yes, this is central, he says. What the left saw as resistance was, from the right's perspective, maintenance meaning meaning it wasn't about pushing back ideologically or trying to go back to some dark past. It was simply a refusal to update the firmware. Like to stick it with the existing operating system. Exactly.

Not launching a new movement, just defaulting to what had always been there. And the examples he gives for this are so every day. It's so tangible. They really. Are the church potluck, the homeschool Co-op, the second freezer in the garage?

The .30 O 6 above the mantle. The pickup truck with the cross sticker. The local sheriff, The farm stand, The Bible on the bedside table, The high school football game where the entire town still shows up. These aren't political rallies, they're just life, community, tradition. Precisely.

And he concludes, it wasn't a political platform, it was a culture. And it hadn't died, just gone quiet. Suggesting it just retreated from the spotlight, maybe went underground in a way. Yeah, or just focused inward perhaps. Which raises that big question, doesn't it?

What are the actual long term societal consequences if large groups just disconnect like that? Right. He hammers this point. It wasn't backlash, it was something more disarming. Exit, Not revolt, but retreat. Not destruction, but disconnection. The judo analogy comes back.

Right. Let the overextension defeat the attacker. Use their momentum against them. So the strategy is. Let the screamers scream.

The Breakers break. Meanwhile, stock the pantry, dig in, wait. It's about patience, long term survival. Why? What's the end game? His reasoning is starkly practical because after the fever burns itself out, someone still needs to know how to change a tire, clean a deer, fix a roof, raise a child, pray over the dead, and endure.

It's about basic resilience, self-sufficiency. Almost like preparing for a different kind of future. And that leads to his most chilling line on this, I think. They weren't planning to storm your city. They were planning to outlive it.

Wow. That paints a picture of a really profound quiet divide, generational endurance over immediate conflict. It's a strategy completely outside the usual political playbook. OK, so this leads us to what he calls the real civil war, but he's very specific about what he means by that, right? Yes, absolutely. Crucial distinction, he says.

It's quiet, economic, systemic. Not tanks and trenches, no. He states it bluntly. Red America doesn't want to invade blue America, it wants to starve it. It's a really harsh way to put it.

Starve it how? Economically, systemically, through the flow of resources. His suggested methods are things like turn off the supply chains, cut the water, defund the grants. So it's like a siege, but using bureaucracy and finance instead of weapons, leveraging dependency. That seems to be the idea and the concept of indirect defunding is really interesting.

Here he gives specific example. Like public media? Exactly. He takes on the claim that NPR, for instance, gets only 2% from the government. He calls that a joke for insiders.

He says he's seen how the money flows through CPBNEHNEAUSA. He calls it a shadow subsidy. OK CPB is Corporation for Public Broadcasting, NEH. National Endowment for Humanities, NEH, AA, Arts USA. Does international aid right.

How does that fit? He's suggesting a complex web. Even if direct funding is small. These institutions rely on a network of grants, indirect support that ultimately traces back to government sources, in his view. So his strategy isn't censorship.

No, he implies. That would look bad too. Authoritarian instead. It's don't censor it, just stop funding the oxygen tanks. Cut off the financial lifeblood quietly. Right, it shows an understanding of those complex funding streams.

Pull one thread and maybe the whole thing unravels. Let the him with or without a direct attack. And he applies a similar logic to universities, doesn't? He he does again, he says a direct shutdown would look like fascism, not the goal. So what's the alternative?

Using existing legal tools, he says. But if you redefine their excesses as anti-Semitism, which many of them are now guilty of, you can cut off federal grants under Title 6. OK, Title 6 of the Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination in federally funded programs, and that's been interpreted to include anti-Semitism on campuses. Exactly. So he's pointing to a legal lever.

If campuses are found in violation, their federal funding can be cut. So the tools aren't soldiers. No, you don't need tanks. You need accountants and lawyers and parents who won't write another tuition check. Wow, it's all about financial pressure points and legal mechanisms using the system against itself in a way.

That's precisely it. Disrupt the money flow, not directly control the message. Aim for a slow systemic weakening. It's a very calculated, almost cold strategy, avoiding direct fights, aiming for deep change through economics. Definitely.

It implies that if you cut the funding, the cultural stuff that depends on it will just fade away. No need for censorship. Economic attrition. That's the term, and it raises big questions about power. Does he say how this plays out long term?

Not in huge detail in these pieces, but the implication is clear cut. The money and institutions either change drastically or collapse. It's definitely a long game, and notably, he doesn't really explore potential blowback or escalation from these kinds of tactics. His focus stays on the quiet part. OK, so next Abraham tries to boil down the core values he sees driving these two sides.

It's a stark simplification, maybe, but interesting. Yeah, he contrasts some quite sharply. He. Says on one side, the left made everything sacred. Gender identity, racial identity, pronouns, dietary choices, even tone of voice.

Suggesting an ever expanding list of things that are off limits for debate, tied to identity and expression, moving beyond traditional ideas of the sacred. Right. And then the contrast. He says the right made nothing sacred except autonomy. Just one thing, individual freedom, self governance, being left alone. That's a massive difference in worldview, isn't it? Huge.

And the implication he draws is the right doesn't want control, it wants distance. Not about imposing their way, but about separation. Which brings up that question again. What happens when values clash That fundamentally, when one side keeps expanding the sacred and the other sees that as infringing on their only sacred thing, autonomy? Exactly.

It shrinks the common ground, doesn't. It makes compromise almost impossible and fuels that desire for distance, for exit rather than trying to share control. The tension comes from that clash of what's ultimately revered. He uses that rubber band metaphor here, doesn't he? Yes, simple but powerful.

And if you push hard enough, if you stretch the rubber band too far, it doesn't snap back, it breaks. Suggesting it's not just a swing back and forth, but a potential structural failure, a permanent break. Right. The constant pressure of expanding sacredness versus the defense of autonomy stretches things to a breaking point. And breaking for him seems to mean that severing of connections, that radical exit.

Not necessarily violence, but separation, irreparable division. And he even applies a kind of business analogy to the movements themselves. Yeah, he uses the old saying some corporations have too many chiefs and not enough Indians, too much management, not enough workers. OK then, he says the Maggie, a populist nationalist critique is similar. Too many vanguards, not enough proletarians.

Vanguards being the leaders, the theorists, proletarians the working base. Exactly. He's pointing to a perceived disconnect, the intellectual leaders pushing agendas or ideas that the actual base doesn't fully connect with. So the base might just disengage turn out. That seems to be the suggestion.

This top down feel alienates the people it's supposed to represent, maybe contributing to that quiet exit, focusing on their own lives instead of the Vanguard's plans. A gap between the theory and the practice. Hashtag tag of 6/6 the Watchers final observations. OK, so as we wrap up this deep dive, Abraham comes back to define himself one last time. He states very clearly what he is not. Right, pushing back against the labels. I'm not a racist, I'm not a sexist, I'm not a fascist. I don't think I'm literally Hitler. It's a strong rejection of those terms he sees is overused. Then he says what he is.

I am something else. I'm done pretending. I don't see what's happening is him reaffirming that role of witness. Not ideologue, not fighter, just observer. And cementing it.

Call it what you want, I'm just the watcher. There's a finality to that. Or resignation maybe? Bearing witness becomes his primary act. And the imagery he uses at the very end, it's incredibly stark.

It circles back to that restaurant metaphor. Yeah, tell us about that closing visual. He paints this picture. I see the restaurant going dark. I see the check unpaid. I see the waiter leaving.

I see the lights flicker. It's just pure imagery of decay, failure, system shutting down. Like the whole enterprise is collapsing. Exactly. But then comes the real kicker, and I see the activists yelling at the mirror, still arguing over the pronouns on the dessert menu. Wow.

That's designed to provoke, surely? Oh absolutely. It suggests this profound unawareness, this focus on internal, maybe trivial debates while the whole structure is failing around them. Self absorption disconnected from the reality of collapse. A misplacement of priorities, in his view.

That's the clear implication. It brings his whole argument to a sharp point. And his final personal note feels more sad than angry. Doesn't. It it does. I love my country.

I love my friends, but I also know when a party is over. Acceptance. Almost an end of an era. Yeah, not a call to fight, but a recognition that things have fundamentally changed. I'm not here to fight, I'm just here to witness, to remember what it used to mean.

The watcher holding on to the memory, observing the fallout. Chronicler, not combatant. And then he leaves us, the listener, with that final, really potent question, the mic drop moment. Right. What is it? He says he's there to wonder quietly after the last credit card is declined, after the last fund is frozen, if they'll ever realize who was paying the bill the whole time. That's unsettling.

It implies a coming shock, a revelation about where the resources actually came from. Exactly. A challenge to perceived self-sufficiency. A hint that the support structures were maybe invisible, taken for granted and about to disappear. A rude awakening. Hashtag Hatch outro.

So what does this all mean for you? Well, this deep dive into Chris Abraham's perspective has definitely given us a stark, specific and, yeah, provocative view on the cultural and political shifts happening. It's a challenging viewpoint. He uses these really vivid metaphors, personal stories, to build this narrative of disillusionment, quiet withdrawal, and this idea of strategic, systemic action challenging how we usually think about political conflict. It certainly offers a unique lens on fragmentation. Apps.

Which leaves us with some pretty big questions to Mull over, doesn't it? If this quiet Civil War idea holds any water, if one side is really focused on exit and distance, what does that actually mean for national unity down the road? Yeah, Can different groups ever really share the same public square again if the fundamental values are so different and the strategy is disengagement? And what does autonomy truly look like in a society that's so interconnected? Can you really disconnect without creating massive real effects for everyone?

Those are huge questions. Definitely food for thought. Extending way beyond just these articles makes you reflect on our shared spaces and what holds things together, really. Indeed, lots to think about.